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Posted on 2021-05-14 11:57:09   
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Ragnbone wrote:

I heavelly suportt such iniciative, although im not national team manager, or have ever been.
I most of nations aggre to such proposal, I believe that will have a snow ball effect on the others.
For example, posts can be created awarding the title of world champion to the national team reaching best place.
So let everybody post their opinions.
If we have critical mass we should advance!




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Posted on 2021-05-14 12:00:50   
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Bogomil wrote:

Hello,
There are managers who have several teams from the same country. They are absolute masters of their national team. No matter how much we want to improve, we can't do anything against those managers and their national teams.


So you should agree with my second idea which could give some new macedonian's teams !

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Posted on 2021-05-14 12:08:52   
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danic wrote:

Good evening everyone.

I am the manager of Russia for this season.

I have carefully read your messages.
I wrote to the Russian managers to find out if they wanted to rejuvenate the squad or keep the older players who are mostly the best.

I await their return to present the selection.



Thanks danic !


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Posted on 2021-05-14 12:11:36   
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Stoik wrote:

Bogomil wrote:

Hello,
There are managers who have several teams from the same country. They are absolute masters of their national team. No matter how much we want to improve, we can't do anything against those managers and their national teams.


So you should agree with my second idea which could give some new macedonian's teams !



Any idea that gets players in their late 50s to retire is fine with me.
I wouldn't mind rejuvenating the national team even if the level drops a lot in the case of Macedonia.
And if some coach wants to create Macedonian teams, I'm fine with that, as long as no one profits by passing money from one team to another. Which seems impossible to me with all the cheating that several managers do.

Posted on 2021-05-14 12:34:04   
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I guess my position isn't very important as my country doesn't even have a National Team, but I also believe it's a good idea. Of course, it should be done gradually, otherwise some teams would be severely affected and without time to adapt.

Posted on 2021-05-14 14:31:08   
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Bogomil wrote:


Any idea that gets players in their late 50s to retire is fine with me.
I wouldn't mind rejuvenating the national team even if the level drops a lot in the case of Macedonia.
And if some coach wants to create Macedonian teams, I'm fine with that, as long as no one profits by passing money from one team to another. Which seems impossible to me with all the cheating that several managers do.


(edit : in their late 50's ? 59 ???)
So i note it and, as Dimas says , yes it should be done little by little for the most affected teams, at least the possibility to keep seven 40+ players in a first time to keep a decent titularies squad to these most affected teams(it's just an example).

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Posted on 2021-05-14 16:52:00   
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Stoik wrote:

Ginosaji wrote:

Stoik wrote:

Ginosaji wrote:

Club managers should first agree with releasing their 40+ players, they can also inform national team manager that they are ready for their player to retire.


I disagree, their players are available because of the national teams. In general they retire at 33 or 34 yo, so in my opinion it's taking the problem inversely.



Some clubs hold most of the NT players, so that would be a big step back for them and you need to give them some time first, to prepare.



This time, yep, i agree with you if it's the only way to convince them !


They will not agree, at least not all of them.
The only possible way is to advance once reached critical mass and them some of them will join when they realize this is for real or eventually vote them out of national team manager.

Posted on 2021-05-14 18:25:58   
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Stoik wrote:

National Teams number of 40+ yo players and position :

Sweden : 6
Polska : 0 (no need to fire)
Spain : 3
Czechia : 4
Germany : 2
Croatia : 6
Hungary : 4
France : 4-1 (manager Stoik agrees to fire)
Romania : 0 (no need to fire)
Bosnia-H. : 7
Slovenia : 13 (Polish manager)
Slovakia : 0 (no need to fire)
Italia : 2
Russia : 13 (French manager)
Portugal : 0 (no need to fire)
Belgium : 10 (if i create a new team it would be a belgian one )

Denmark : 1
Serbia : 1
Ukrain : 3
Netherlands : 13 (and a 50+ ^^)
Macedonia : 9 (manager Bogumil agrees to fire at 50)
Lettonia : 5 (Ukrainian manager)
Brazil : 1
Argentina : 4
USA : 1
Mexico : 6
Iceland : 7
Switzerland : 8
UK : 18
Austria : 10
China : 6
Australia : 3





Now Italy has 0 player over 40 years-old ... Italy agree with this iniziative!
Now middle age is 32 years-old!!!

Posted on 2021-05-14 19:48:15   
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Wow thank you Lorenzo to support the idea with such enthousiasm !!!

I noted it on the board !

Viva Italia !

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Posted on 2021-05-14 19:59:51   
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Ragnbone wrote:

Stoik wrote:

Ginosaji wrote:

Stoik wrote:

Ginosaji wrote:

Club managers should first agree with releasing their 40+ players, they can also inform national team manager that they are ready for their player to retire.


I disagree, their players are available because of the national teams. In general they retire at 33 or 34 yo, so in my opinion it's taking the problem inversely.



Some clubs hold most of the NT players, so that would be a big step back for them and you need to give them some time first, to prepare.



This time, yep, i agree with you if it's the only way to convince them !


They will not agree, at least not all of them.
The only possible way is to advance once reached critical mass and them some of them will join when they realize this is for real or eventually vote them out of national team manager.



As Italia did to show the way !

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