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Posted on 2013-05-24 23:28:53   
Goldmaker
Posts: 847
Administrator wrote:

Chrill wrote:

Every successful online game require incitements from the developers to involve the community. It's seldom about graphics and nice extra additional features that make people pay in the long run, people will continue paying if they feel the developers are as invested in the project as the players. For example regular updates, bug fixes etc.

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You are supporting the game in any case it seems, so first thanks for that.

You missed the point though. I mentioned above that after we reviewed the THB situation we came to the conclusion that no amount of admin involvement, updates and bug fixes didn't help in boosting supporter numbers. ...



Regarding to that answer I think I never buy Supporter again...
Because that is exactly what makes people pay. That and new things.
It doesnt need to be good things, even "bad" things will do. Just so we see that anyone bothered.

Posted on 2013-05-24 23:35:39   
pepguardiola
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Uh I remember another thing that has been bothering many users from the start. Why do we have the option to set player positions if they aren't used anywhere? When you forget to set a tactic it should at least put the players on their position so you don't have 2 or 3 goalkeepers in field and the best scorer in the goal.

And I also think that this game need new players because only that way you will get your money, but for that to happen this game must be advertised by the players that already has and no will advertise a boring game but an interesting and thrilling game will get advertised by it self from its users.

Posted on 2013-05-24 23:42:20   
River Black
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pepguardiola wrote:

Uh I remember another thing that has been bothering many users from the start. Why do we have the option to set player positions if they aren't used anywhere? When you forget to set a tactic it should at least put the players on their position so you don't have 2 or 3 goalkeepers in field and the best scorer in the goal.

And I also think that this game need new players because only that way you will get your money, but for that to happen this game must be advertised by the players that already has and no will advertise a boring game but an interesting and thrilling game will get advertised by it self from its users.




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Posted on 2013-05-24 23:43:45   
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What let us can be made so that continuous game… In this reflection, I like much your ideas for the development of the game, but upstream the incomes lacks. In France, one says with if… One would remake the world!!! Let us be more objective and find answers which will contribute to a better development. Let us recall that behind TEAM HB there is an administrator who does his utmost for our personal pleasure… Merit you it pas d' being rewarded with his right value??? Do I believe that if we want a game durable and in the process of development, the contribution of each one is essential… A us to think of it???

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Posted on 2013-05-24 23:47:47   
pepguardiola
Posts: 1393
So my conclusion is that the thing you must work on most is changing the week schedule and making it more efficient so we don't have only 2 games per week most of the season.

Ideas:

-Youth leagues
-Second friendly for supporters
-Another continental cup
-Get away friendlies for good during season and make them available only during post season and have two league matches.

And I am sure there are some other possibilities.

Posted on 2013-05-25 1:02:45   
Fabricio_Rasente
Posts: 393
I think it's best to keep the game as is. I mean ordinary users have common privileges. And the support have more privileges that are offered now. So those who have no support will want to hire you.

Posted on 2013-05-25 1:46:12   
maurice
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I think that youd made a mistake in your analisys. At the begining there were a few suporting % of players, thats normal. You tried to improve the game and it didn't work at short term, ok, but this shouldn't be suposed to work that way, 'cause usually in this kind of games there is a constant flux of players joining and players leaving. It's important to try to get more inputs than outputs (the game failed a lot in this aspect in the last years), and then, use to happen than there is constant portion of the users that are short-term ones, that will play a few time and leave the game, but a few part of the incoming flux of players will become suporter and, if the game is well done (and this one has a wonderfull base), the comunity it's nice, and the players see improvements, it's suposed to slowly but regularly be increased the % of suporter players. ¿How? Well, there are two kinds of in and out flow, the basic one and the suporter one. If you work well, usually less suporter players leave the game, or leave the suporter account, in relation with the new suporters, compared with the basic users that keep playing in relation to the short-time players.

So I think that if you had been more patient, you should have, at least, about 15% or more of suporters.
If it has increased in the last times is just because accordingly to my point, suporters resist more to leave the game.
But if you don't change anything, this game is losing too much players, and could become imposible to save.

Posted on 2013-05-25 2:00:15   
maurice
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About the changes that could help to improve the game right now, I agree with some proposals already done, with some new ideas:

1- Fix some old and amazing bugs, like the one that makes the extra time results to appear before that time is played.

2- Keep suporting, but adding the option of colaborate. Maybe some suporters could consider helping a little more the game, or basic players that cannot affroad a suporter acount could help with a little amount.

3- Increase game, season, and whole-live stats of players and teams. Maybe more detailled for suporter players.

4- Increase number of teams for division and play two league matches a week could be a hard work, but a great improvement. If it's easier, a second weekly friendly could be a good idea instead.

5- Improve design.

6- Add u-21 or 23 NTs. Make that all NT player whose team become bot join the transfer market as soon as it happens.

7- Allow the two best players of every regional league reach the LOC. Keep group phases, but add a semi-final between the first of each group and the second of the other one, and play final and also for the 3rd and 4th place. It would make more teams try to keep playing with the best players even if they loosed one or two matches.

8- Create a Special Cup only for the Cup winners, and an Super Cup between the LOC and the Special Cup winners.

9- Go to sleep.
(that one it's an advice to myself )

Don't let this game die!

Posted on 2013-05-25 5:52:13   
felipej
Posts: 76
First of all, excuse me for my bad english, it's not my native language.

I think thb doesn't give the new users any motivation to keep playing the game. For example, I created my thb account some seasons ago, I started at IV division, and I couldn't get to III because my team had already lost some games. So I had to play more than half season against 8 teams without manager. The next season, all 9 teams didn't have managers, I had another season without any "funny" game. This season, at III division, all 9 teams don't have managers. Another season without funny games. Conclusion: I play this game since, maybe, 10 months, and I never had an interesting game for the league.
This for sure make new managers live the game, so you will never get new supporters nor get more money because of ads.
I hope the game will get better this year, thank you for asking for our opinion.
Excuse my english

Posted on 2013-05-25 6:41:15   
Chrill
Posts: 601
As mentioned it's very problematic to attract AND keep new players. The support potential in new players should be prioritized. And they really need to see a good game in order to do so. However I think this require some major overhauls. Because if you want customers you really have to have a good product, there's NO way around that.

* Tutorial for new players. And a new faq with alot more valid info.

* Let active supporters or donators write news regarding league/cup/LoC/ etc. Make them help promote interest in the games that are played or other interesting aspects.

* Botflushing is very much needed. Perhaps eleminating the lowest divsion altogether in some areas would be a good idea. It's better to fill up div IV ranks with teams then having single div V teams roaming around. Excitment around important matches should be a high priority.

* Shorter seasons, this way newer team will see progress faster. A good pace would be 4 seasons in one year (one season ~3 months).

* More versatility in league promotion and elemination. Should encourage more important matches and not losing interest in a season.

* A more interesting intercontinental league setup than the current LoC. Similar to WC and WC play-off.

* Support option to create b-teams that can play u-23 players (or something like that) in a lower league (team cannot be promoted beyond div IV or own team). Or possibly a user created league.

* Support users can create and maintain friendly tournaments instead of simple friendly games (WC setup?).

* Reward players who recruit new players better.
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