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Well, "overhaul" is in works as we speak, so it would only be 2 times the same work if we started implementing suggestion into this (old) game site.
IHOCreturns wrote:
Dear admins,
I find your defensiveness refreshing. I also disagree with many of the accusations hurled toward developers of this game.
The people who have been keeping this game running, do give a shit about this game.
The match engine is perhaps the best I have participated in. I have never lost to a team I was obviously better than. I've been on both sides of the coin flip and learned from the experience.
Back to the topic.
The main suggestions I have lobbied for is:
Career Stats
League Leaders
What we are asking for is that 1 suggestion be implemented every off-season.
We don't want an overhaul.
Just 1 universally accepted improvement be added to the game each off-season.
The easiest way to do that, without disrupting the current chemistry of the game, is to simply compile the stats.
That's what us roto-nerds love.
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Administrator wrote:
If you ever worked in IT company, you know that it doesn't work this way.
There are IP stuff involved. Those who work on THB are also working for Melderon.
ady_aly wrote:
I wrote to you that I can help your development team to speed up the upgrading process, but you didn't give a ... about my wish to help  |
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Yes, I know, but there are things such as VPN. Just saying that it is possible to do some work from home(eg. write a query from the database for statistics etc).
I don't have much time either, but I can try to help any way, if it is possible. |
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Administrator wrote:
For the end, I will state the obvious. Those that like the game, and can afford it, please support it. Or at least click those ads that interests you at least a bit(don't go click berserk now, as ads publishers don't allow it anyway). It's the bottom line that decides how much extra time we can add to development. And until the game only covers the most basic costs (if at all), we can only work on it on our free time.
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I support the game since I started to play, in 2010 in the 3rd season i think (not with my current team). And I always will do, doesnt matter if it improves or not.
I understand the developers, this doesnt make earn money, so Im thankful to them they still dedicate time to develop. And Im patient wating for improvements.
And yes....its sad to see many teams playing here during years and never have decided to support the game with some miserables cents par day. I guess some of them can't affort it, but i think is not the case of the most. They have that they deserve.
I will support always this game, is the best classical manager based on browser that i have never seen. A pitty is not sufficiently supported , cause if it were could be a top game.
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| Hm...you had big support in the past, but missed to take care about this fragile small community. People started with refusing support, afterwards leaving the game...maybe it would have been wise to do it the other way? Taking care first, and then earn the supporter accounts...just my 2 cent... |
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pumuckl wrote:
Hm...you had big support in the past, but missed to take care about this fragile small community. People started with refusing support, afterwards leaving the game...maybe it would have been wise to do it the other way? Taking care first, and then earn the supporter accounts...just my 2 cent... |
A different company ran the game for the first four years, just so you know.
Regardless, it's good to see admins comment about this. I've been here since 2011, and I've always bought a supporter account. I see it as a "you're allowed to complain" pass, which I don't want to lose. |
Ragnarök Reykjavík returns. |
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TeamHB never had enough supporters to even cover part-time dedicated developer on the project.
Actually, thinking about it and shuffling numbers, THB alone never covered 1/4 of one developer's wages 
Yes, there were quite a few players at the beginning (couple of thousands), but never enough supporters.
You are entitled to your opinion, of course, ... and you are right in some of what you are saying, like that we made, not few, but lots of mistakes along the way, but my statement about never covering costs are based on facts, supported by raw financial data and database
pumuckl wrote:
Hm...you had big support in the past, but missed to take care about this fragile small community. People started with refusing support, afterwards leaving the game...maybe it would have been wise to do it the other way? Taking care first, and then earn the supporter accounts...just my 2 cent... |
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I hate quote pyramids.
"Please more statistics"
It has been made clear, this will never happen under the current format. I cannot assume but I would advise these statistics are included in the next form of this game.
"Overhaul"
This is the slogan of every message board troll that has ever played a true manager game. Realizing the folly of their player development, facing another 2 real life years to set their team on track. They still think they can manage their favorite pro club.
"I could easily fix your coding"
If you're so good at coding, make your own game. Are you willing to do it for 400 supporter packages a year, at 30 euro?
I can't say I'm looking forward to the overhaul, but I am intrigued. I'm guessing the people begging for it, are already gone.
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I'm sick of that admins talk. Why would anyone buy a supporter here? Tell me why?
The supporter brings nothing! Yes, exactly nothing you could use. The only thing you can is make a logo and your shirts, and for that I should pay? I got it once and I was disappointed by their options you got.
The other useful things is that you can save your tactics (more then one) on all other normal manager games you can do it without supp.
It's obviously why people are leaving the game, because years and years the game is the same, 0% progress, then you say we are not paid for this, thx God, who would pay you to do nothing?
The game is dying, every day less and less users because there is no work on this game, ofc I'm still playing because I love it, but lot of friends stop it because they see no future here.
And this story every and every time, we care, we're working for free and etc is for little children, if you don't plan to improve the game, just delete it, don't let people suffer who really like this game.
Then you will come and say, yes, there will be an update and things will be batter, yea, maybe in 2117 year.
What do you think how I feel, I came to the LOC final last season, waiting it my whole "career", then the game begin, what did I see, nothing! The game wasn't even playing, after the game finished that night you just showed us the result where I lost. Was thinking of deleting the game ofc...
Now in the match engine when I watch the game, sometimes there is shown a goal by one team and below the goal is no text, how the team does score? Just empty..
Never mind..
Cheers!  |
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King_Leonidas wrote:
I'm sick of that admins talk. Why would anyone buy a supporter here? Tell me why? |
So you want us to offer supporter account with clear advantages in the game then?
We got close to that with full texts after matches, and then reverted it as there was a general unrest from users accusing us of that
King_Leonidas wrote:
The supporter brings nothing! Yes, exactly nothing you could use. The only thing you can is make a logo and your shirts, and for that I should pay? I got it once and I was disappointed by their options you got. |
Actually, the idea of the supporter in a game like THB is that you pay to support the game that is available to you for free.
King_Leonidas wrote:
It's obviously why people are leaving the game, because years and years the game is the same, 0% progress, then you say we are not paid for this, thx God, who would pay you to do nothing?
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Even if the game would not be touched/upgraded from the start, someone put a lot of effort to create it in the first place and then offer the game for free to all users, hoping to get something back by (practically) donations named "supporter account".
Your example is similar to something like "First you work for me 1 year for free, then I'll maybe start paying you for upgrades on the code you did while working for me.... for free. You see the point?
And server costs? Who do you think pays for that? And even if code would never be touched, there is still admin work to be done each and every day.
Don't get me wrong, but to claim, the game is not worth even an occasion supporter for couple of months, while you are playing it from 2009, is just not right.
King_Leonidas wrote:
And this story every and every time, we care, we're working for free and etc is for little children, if you don't plan to improve the game, just delete it, don't let people suffer who really like this game. |
Again, if people like the game, why is the game making them suffer? Because of no upgrades? Game is there to be played. It's perfectly playable. So why delete it, even if we wouldn't touch it (by the way of upgrades)?
King_Leonidas wrote:
What do you think how I feel, I came to the LOC final last season, waiting it my whole "career", then the game begin, what did I see, nothing! The game wasn't even playing, after the game finished that night you just showed us the result where I lost. Was thinking of deleting the game ofc...
Now in the match engine when I watch the game, sometimes there is shown a goal by one team and below the goal is no text, how the team does score? Just empty.. |
It's called bugs. They do happen. Sometimes there is a problem. No game is immune to that
King_Leonidas wrote:
Never mind..
Cheers! |
Same to you ... |
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