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Posted on 2009-12-15 15:44:37   
Schweden81
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Artoupan wrote:

But what interest having so many players ? With their wages and the level of the market, it's not interesting in long term plan...



their wages are low, so no problem (as for every act. Player) ... they are an investment for the future, even if you have young & high talented ones and in that fact for sure interesting in long term planing (also the fact the the act. starting Player with high TC are the older ones and should be reset from the younger ones, but this needs time, because of the lower TC)

:-)

Edit: I wouldn't train any Player with the fact of low starting Skills, Work Ethic and talent ... it makes no sense for the development of the Player


Posted on 2009-12-15 15:54:24   
Schweden81
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add. Trading is one aspect of nearly every sporty online game to receive extra money & to build up a strong & wide squad ... but in fact buyers have to check up very good the Players, as there are many, many average ones, which aren't worthy their buying price


Posted on 2009-12-16 0:07:01   
Artoupan
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Yeah, quite all the players I see in the transfer list don't worth their price...
Look at my calculations :

One year = 18 weeks
500$ x 18 = 9000$ each year

Let's say 15 of work ethic, and no trainer (too expensive for now), a player earn 25 points each week, spreaded between the different skills of the category trained... So let's say in a year, +5 points of skills...
You need many years to make him a very good player, with good skills, and you will need to sell him VERY high price to cover what you spent. And more if you buy him !

Posted on 2009-12-16 0:20:31   
Schweden81
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Artoupan wrote:

Yeah, quite all the players I see in the transfer list don't worth their price...
Look at my calculations :

One year = 18 weeks
500$ x 18 = 9000$ each year

Let's say 15 of work ethic, and no trainer (too expensive for now), a player earn 25 points each week, spreaded between the different skills of the category trained... So let's say in a year, +5 points of skills...
You need many years to make him a very good player, with good skills, and you will need to sell him VERY high price to cover what you spent. And more if you buy him !



it depends on what you are paying for a buying price ... so for now I can be satisfied, I have paid only one time even a lot of money, but this Player is really a big one with high starting Skills, talent and WE ... the other ones was cheap and so for now with 21 Players in my squad I am happy with most of them and the salary costs aren't much higher then in other clubs, even for now I have more & better talents (even if they act. didn't perform that good, in fact of small TC)

add. we have to see that Users with older SF Players (at around 26-30> years) should have plan with younger ones in their Friendly squad, to replace them in 1-2 seasons when they got the right TC ... if they don't do that, they will become a really big problem

Posted on 2009-12-16 12:35:47   
Oddball
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i see no reason to hold over 14 players, due to wages and replacement positions.

the only reason would be resell value in a season's time. each to their own though Good luck though. i am sitting at 14 players and selling anything below 3* as they wont be in my team i will only increase the number if i get another 5* youth player but i doubt that with 2 in my team already

i think it will come and bite u at the end of the season when wages increase and u have the max roster.

Posted on 2009-12-16 12:44:25   
Schweden81
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Oddball wrote:

i see no reason to hold over 14 players, due to wages and replacement positions.

the only reason would be resell value in a season's time. each to their own though Good luck though. i am sitting at 14 players and selling anything below 3* as they wont be in my team i will only increase the number if i get another 5* youth player but i doubt that with 2 in my team already

i think it will come and bite u at the end of the season when wages increase and u have the max roster.



first of all, I don't think that wages will increase that much, as Players are just right now on a low level

2nd think, everyone is gonna go his own way and I think that your way isn't the best at all ;-)

3rd think, talent Stars isn't the most important thing (as with 1 Star you can raise up the Player also do a good level up to 11 Skill), so it is much, much more important to look for good starting skill combination and high Working Ethic (so a high Star talent is only 3rd placed in order)

Posted on 2009-12-16 12:47:56   
Oddball
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Schweden81 wrote:

Oddball wrote:

i see no reason to hold over 14 players, due to wages and replacement positions.

the only reason would be resell value in a season's time. each to their own though Good luck though. i am sitting at 14 players and selling anything below 3* as they wont be in my team i will only increase the number if i get another 5* youth player but i doubt that with 2 in my team already

i think it will come and bite u at the end of the season when wages increase and u have the max roster.



first of all, I don't think that wages will increase that much, as Players are just right now on a low level

2nd think, everyone is gonna go his own way and I think that your way isn't the best at all ;-)

3rd think, talent Stars isn't the most important thing (as with 1 Star you can raise up the Player also do a good level up to 11 Skill), so it is much, much more important to look for good starting skill combination and high Working Ethic (so a high Star talent is only 3rd placed in order)



time will tell. but i will be happy playing my 5* talent against your 1* in the seasons to come.

edit* i hope my luck holds out this season then.
Last edited on 2009-12-16 at 12:50

Posted on 2009-12-16 12:49:52   
Schweden81
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Oddball wrote:

Schweden81 wrote:

Oddball wrote:

i see no reason to hold over 14 players, due to wages and replacement positions.

the only reason would be resell value in a season's time. each to their own though Good luck though. i am sitting at 14 players and selling anything below 3* as they wont be in my team i will only increase the number if i get another 5* youth player but i doubt that with 2 in my team already

i think it will come and bite u at the end of the season when wages increase and u have the max roster.



first of all, I don't think that wages will increase that much, as Players are just right now on a low level

2nd think, everyone is gonna go his own way and I think that your way isn't the best at all ;-)

3rd think, talent Stars isn't the most important thing (as with 1 Star you can raise up the Player also do a good level up to 11 Skill), so it is much, much more important to look for good starting skill combination and high Working Ethic (so a high Star talent is only 3rd placed in order)



time will tell. but i will be happy playing my 5* talent against your 1* in the seasons to come.



one more time, Star talents only show the max. Skill level ... it isn't interesting for the performance on the field!

... and you can be sure that I have most of all more then 1* talent Players in my squad

Posted on 2009-12-16 12:53:43   
Oddball
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how is work ethic helping your team on the field? higher talent means a lot especially when u will suddenly be capped, it might not happen in a few seasons but it will.

as i said its your managerial choice and i hope it works. but dont underestimate the wages at the end of the season even if its low stats at this point.

Posted on 2009-12-16 13:09:30   
Schweden81
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Oddball wrote:

how is work ethic helping your team on the field? higher talent means a lot especially when u will suddenly be capped, it might not happen in a few seasons but it will.

as i said its your managerial choice and i hope it works. but dont underestimate the wages at the end of the season even if its low stats at this point.



nothing on the field, but this wasn't the point at all ... as you have read my previous posts, you can see that I try to trade with a lot of these Players so that means I will step by step fill my squad with more & more talented Youngsters and sell the trained ones for an interesting price.
It isn't my main goal to achieve the quick sporty success here, so more to build up a wide, young and high talented squad and on the other side to have a look on all important things about the infrastructure

So about in 4-5 Seasons I will probably have a look on my long term sporty goal

with the wages ... it is a point we all can not really prove right now, would be interesting from Admin side to have an overview of the different steps here (if it will mainly be up to the highest A-Skill or more about the main skills)
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