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Posted on 2021-05-23 19:03:07   
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Stoik wrote:

Alexsoulsay wrote:

Stoik wrote:

Hadar wrote:

Stoik wrote:


But I respect your position Hadar, even if i'm sometimes ironical (it's a personal disease ), and if i think it's a really really narrow one !



So those who cheat because they have more teams can now argue that it's for the good of the game This view simply does not suit me, but we are all different.....


Bad faith from you : they do it in the same region, what change everything...



In the same region, can't you relocate money from one team into another one???


Are you trolling me or haven't you read everything on this topic?



Why trolling?? Here you present opinions such as: let's make other teams, etc. At the same time, you know the best, that admins and some control don't work here at all. You may think everything good, but some of the things you say here can be quite dangerous. Even so, here are plays a lot of multiteams.


Posted on 2021-05-23 19:09:03   
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People who wants to cheat does it yet and don't give the names of their teams, or in my case of their potential future teams... What don't you understand there ??? That what's i call trolling.

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Posted on 2021-05-23 19:17:25   
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Stoik wrote:

People who wants to cheat does it yet and don't give the names of their teams, or in my case of their potential future teams... What don't you understand there ??? That what's i call trolling.



And I don't understand that you can't understand that I see some of your opinions (and I'm probably not alone) as dangerous.

You come out here that all you say is gold and a different opinion infuriates you.

+ you take your initiative as the only right solution.

But people are not the same bro

Posted on 2021-05-23 19:31:24   
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Alexsoulsay wrote:

infuriates you.


all is said here !
(and your solution is ? Waiting a move from the admin ? )

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Posted on 2021-05-23 19:56:55   
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Stoik wrote:

Alexsoulsay wrote:

infuriates you.


all is said here !
(and your solution is ? Waiting a move from the admin ? )



I am the only player, nothing else. when it ends here, it ends. Neither you or your initiative will change anything. You're not mainly in a position to preach something here. You are only players too

Posted on 2021-05-23 19:59:24   
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Alexsoulsay wrote:

Stoik wrote:

Alexsoulsay wrote:

infuriates you.


all is said here !
(and your solution is ? Waiting a move from the admin ? )



I am the only player, nothing else. when it ends here, it ends. Neither you or your initiative will change anything. You're not mainly in a position to preach something here. You are only players too


Amen.

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Posted on 2021-05-23 20:16:10   
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Stoik wrote:

Hadar wrote:

Stoik wrote:


But I respect your position Hadar, even if i'm sometimes ironical (it's a personal disease ), and if i think it's a really really narrow one !



So those who cheat because they have more teams can now argue that it's for the good of the game This view simply does not suit me, but we are all different.....


Bad faith from you : they do it in the same region, what change everything...



There are already several users who have teams in several regions. And it did not bring anything positive. Only transferring money from team to team.
And what do you say about such a situation: You have teams in two regions and both will advance to the Champions League. Will they play against each other and then where will the fair play? Or playing friendly matches against your other team. You will have the advantage, because you can easily test everything you want, because you will be able to set the tactics of the opponent and you will know the strength of your opponents without scouting. Such users are already here and it is very unfair to those who do not cheat.

If it did treated by admins so that such teams could not trade and play with each other, then OK. But this is not the situation.

Posted on 2021-05-25 9:15:58   
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Hadar wrote:


There are already several users who have teams in several regions. And it did not bring anything positive. Only transferring money from team to team.


Again, if your teams are known by all, there is the transfer history to avoid such thing about my proposition.
Hadar wrote:

And what do you say about such a situation: You have teams in two regions and both will advance to the Champions League. Will they play against each other and then where will the fair play?


That's not for today , but ok, in that contingency, in my case, it's evident that my "second team" won't play seriously any match of the pool - but only with the same roster of young players. It's not perfect, I know, but nothing can be perfect.
Hadar wrote:

Or playing friendly matches against your other team.


Hmmm, it's not really hard to do that with a team which is not yours... Not an important point in my opinion.
Hadar wrote:

You will have the advantage, because you can easily test everything you want, because you will be able to set the tactics of the opponent


For friendly matches ? I'm not sure to understand, sorry... But maybe... to say the truth I'd never thought about this point... Could you developp ? Sorry for that.
Hadar wrote:

and you will know the strength of your opponents without scouting.


That's a good point indeed, but it's not normal either that the national team coaches have to use their own scouting or have to ask their community to help them to know the caracteristics of their national players, and you know what, when they ask and get the exchange of such informations, they are cheating if you follow the rules at the letter... And tt's the same thing, for example, when someone ask someone else the talent of the player he sells by PM, which i'm sure everybody did at least one time... So, everybody is cheating or as been a cheater ? In my opinion, there is cheating (the real one) and cheating (the very little things which are details and merit to be more open-minded if it serves many more the game than it deserves it - about rules without rulers (and every rule can have an amendment if people choose it in democraty - but maybe i'm extrapolating here ).
Hadar wrote:

If it did treated by admins so that such teams could not trade and play with each other, then OK. But this is not the situation.


The problem is that admins are only debuggers now. We play a game with rules but without rulers. So, power to the players !

Thanks Hadar for this developped and constructive post in any case !


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Posted on 2021-05-28 10:00:46   
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Iceland made a first move too : they had 7 40+ yo players, and now only 2 !

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Posted on 2021-05-28 19:25:13   
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Always impossible for Russia to keep out players, no reply of admins.
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